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Hey, everybody, you're listening to The Late Show Pod Show.

I'm joined by Stephen Colbert himself.

Hi, Stephen.

Hi, Becca.

I was going to start this one because I started Monday and you started Tuesday and I figured, but you know, power play is a power play.

Good for you.

No, no.

How are you going to start it?

You grab.

I was going to say, hi, Becca.

It wasn't going to be anything really big.

But I decided, but when I saw that you went for it, I thought, well, let's, well, let's make this uncomfortable. Yeah. Okay, good, okay, good. I know my spot. I know my place. Okay, so today I have a guess the guest for you. This is a game we like to play sometimes. It makes even guess the guest because he doesn't know who's going to be on the podcast this week. No. I plan it and then he comes in the booth and finds out.

If you feel like there's any effort put into these, it's all Becca. Okay, okay, okay. Here we go.

So this guest is a first lady who's been on our show over 15 times.

He's sitting back, he's thinking about it.

I mean, Michelle hasn't been on the show 15 times.

She hasn't.

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