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Well, and we have, obviously... are pretty interested in this Trump Epstein, what in the world's going on thing.

You don't say. It's been going on for a while now.

Well, we have obviously spent much of the past couple weeks talking about this whole thing because it's so bizarre how somebody can go from campaigning on something to then just, I don't understand what the big deal is.

Nothing to see here.

Move along, people.

And then really kind of going at hard, people have been ardent supporters of his who

are simply saying, look, we're very concerned about a human sex trafficking ring.

We're very concerned about who these people were and what they were doing.

And we've just found it a little off that he has responded in this manner. Yeah. And now if you're asking questions, you're deemed a troublemaker. So there's so much now about what Trump's saying, well, I'm asking the DOJ to ask the court to release this and release that. And legally, let's find out what's actually going on here. And luckily, when it comes to our version of legal stuff,

we got one of the best in the business. We got a guy. He's an attorney to the stars. His name

is Stephen P. New. He's represented many, many famous people throughout the great fruited

plains of America. He joins us now. Stephen P. New, hello. How are you guys doing? Good morning.

Great. So I thought, okay, first of all, start

with this. How hard is it to go to a court? Like Trump's saying, I'm asking the DOJ to tell the court

to release this information. How hard is it to get a court to release grand jury information?

Okay. Well, the answer to every question in law school was it depends.

All right.

So upon what does it depend, then, would say, my astute professors of law at the West Virginia University College of Law.

And that was the tough part.

So upon what does it depend? Here, in a case like this, you have had Jeffrey Epstein and

just Lane Maxwell charged with sex trafficking. Okay?

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