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Stephen King on 'The Shining' sequel and the novel he co-authored with his son

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Arts, Books

4.2671 Ratings

🗓️ 31 October 2025

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

In today’s episode, "King of Horror" Stephen King reflects on his sobriety, the sequel to The Shining and a novel he co-wrote with his son. First, The Shining came out in 1980, but King didn’t publish the sequel – Doctor Sleep – until more than 30 years later. In a 2013 interview, the author spoke with NPR’s David Greene about revisiting his iconic characters. Then, King and his son Owen co-wrote Sleeping Beauties after Owen approached his father with an idea for the book’s premise. In today’s episode, we revisit a 2017 conversation between the father-son duo and NPR’s Mary Louise Kelly.


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0:00.0

Hey, it's NPR's Book of the Day. I'm Andrew Limbaugh. We're a book's podcast doing a whole week on horror for Halloween,

0:09.2

so of course we've got to do something on Stephen King. I think that's somewhere in the bylaws of

0:15.4

horror fiction. In a bit, we'll hear about the book he co-wrote with his son, but first, I wanted to play you

0:21.2

this conversation from 2013.

0:23.5

It's with King and then NPR host David Green, and they're talking about King's book, Dr.

0:28.3

Sleep, which is a sequel to The Shining.

0:31.4

And in this interview, King talks about being a pretty heavy drinker back when he wrote The Shining,

0:36.8

and he wrote Dr. Sleep with more than

0:38.7

two decades of sobriety under his belt. And in some ways, the book is a meditation on what

0:44.6

alcoholism does to a person, to a family, to future generations. That's after the break.

0:52.2

Remember the first time you were really, really scared and you liked it?

0:57.0

Maybe it was when you picked up a book by Stephen King, like The Shining.

1:01.1

An awful lot of the people who read The Shining were like 14 years old.

1:05.8

They were at summer camp.

1:07.1

They read it under the covers with a flashlight on.

1:09.8

And, you know, in a way, being scared is like sex.

1:15.1

There's nothing like your first time.

1:17.1

Okay, that's Stephen King describing the challenge that he has taken on,

1:21.1

writing a sequel to such a terrifying and memorable novel.

1:25.2

The Shining, which later became a film starring Jack Nicholson, is the story

1:28.4

of Jack Torrance, a man struggling with demons, from alcoholism to writer's block. And to make matters

1:34.9

worse, he takes the job of caretaker at an isolated old hotel in the Rocky Mountains. He snowed in

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