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The magical thing about when you see my hats or anybody else's hats in an exhibition,

they communicate in a way that clothing can't. I never had that desperation to change the world with one of my designs as dress

designers have to have, because if they don't have that, you know, they'd never make it. The relationship

between a hatmaker and his client, how intimate is that relationship?

Very intimate. It's their interpretation of what I do is the magical part. Actually putting the hat

on somebody is like crowning them. Hi, this is Imran Ahmed, founder and CEO of the Business of Fashion and welcome to Inside Fashion.

This week, our editor at large sits down with a true legend in the fashion industry, Stephen Jones.

Now, we always talk about fashion designers on B.O.F, but we very rarely get to sit down with a milliner, someone who designs hats.

And probably the most well-known

and respected milliner in our industry still working today is Mr. Stephen Jones. His current

exhibition at the Royal Pavilion in Brighton shows Jones's work as a curator of similar shows

over the years. And Tim sits down with him to understand a little bit about the psychology of people

who wear hats. So here's Stephen Jones in conversation with Tim Blanks inside fashion.

So Stephen, you have a show in Brighton right now at the Royal Pavilion, running until June.

And what intrigues me is that you have done quite a lot of shows.

It feels to me like you've done quite a lot of shows since you did hats at the VNA.

Ten years ago.

Ten years ago.

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