meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
Bookworm

Stephen Greenblatt: The Swerve

Bookworm

KCRW

Arts

4.5606 Ratings

🗓️ 15 December 2011

⏱️ 29 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

The true story of the historical detective whose work uncovered the 1000 year-old poem that shook the early Christian world and marked the beginning of the Renaissance...

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

Funds for Bookworm are provided in part by Lannin Foundation.

0:03.9

Boots!

0:10.0

Where would we be without boos?

0:13.0

Where would we be without good?

0:15.5

No, Timberd.

0:17.0

It's a rhetorical question, sir.

0:20.0

But where would we need without books?

0:23.6

From KCRW and KCRW.com, I'm Michael Silverblatt, and this is Bookworm.

0:29.5

Today, my guest is Stephen Greenblatt.

0:32.3

He's written a book called The Swerve, How the World Became Modern.

0:37.9

And it is about that moment in the Renaissance when things were never going to be the same,

0:45.3

largely because a book hunter seeking antiquities in the monastery libraries where you could

0:53.4

still find manuscripts had found Dererum Natura

0:58.1

by Lucretius and really what follows is the Renaissance as we know it. Tell me how you first found

1:07.7

Lucretius. Michael, I first found Lucretius in a much less romantic way. I was an

1:15.5

undergraduate at Yale. I went at the end of the year, as I usually did, to the campus

1:23.1

bookstore to see what books were on sale for next to nothing. And I was rummaging through a

1:30.0

bin and saw that for 10 cents I could buy a copy of a poem I had never heard of by someone I had

1:36.1

never heard of. Lucretius is on the nature of things. I was attracted to it because it had a cover

1:41.8

designed by Max Ernst, the surrealist painter.

1:46.8

It showed two pairs of legs, disembodied legs up in the sky, doing something unusual.

1:53.8

And I thought, oh, this is an interesting cover, and it would be worth a 10 cent investment.

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from KCRW, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of KCRW and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.