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Welcome back to another episode of the Vertical Podcast.

Glad you could join me this week.

And we have a very narrowly focused podcast this week with the NBA off season kind of dying down.

We focus on the one team or two teams really that are keeping it alive.

Boston, Cleveland, Kyrie Irving, Isaiah Thomas.

We take a deep dive into those trade talks and the Thomas hip issue that seems to be holding it up at this point.

I'm joined first by Steve Bulpett.

He's a terrific beatwriter for the Boston.

He'll have been around for decades in Boston, very plugged in with that team.

We dive into the Isaiah situation and exactly what Boston is thinking right now as they move forward.

A little bit later, I check in with Billy King, the former Nets and Sixers general manager.

We take a big picture look at why the Cavaliers are pulling back, what kind of compensation they might be justified in asking for.

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