Hey friend, welcome to the Muir Christians podcast. I'm Jordan Rayner.

How does the gospel influence the work of mere Christians?

Those of us who aren't pastors or religious professionals,

but who work as critical care nurses,

tile-setters, and technical writers.

That's the question we explore every week and today

I'm posing it to Stephen Bargazzi,

the world-class magician who has spent 40 years mastering his craft.

Today of course Stephen is best known as the father of Nate Bar-Gotsy the wildly

popular comedian whom Stephen has been touring with over the last year.

Stephen and I sat down and had a terrific conversation about what it means to him that Satan had no idea what Nate Bargazzi would become.

We talked about how magic can create all and wonder that leads to belief in God, and Stephen shared the that he

under under, that he credits God using for the salvation of his mother on her deathbed?

Trust me, you are not going to want to miss this episode with my new friend, Stephen Margazzi. Stephen Margazzi.

Stephen Margazzi, welcome to the Muir Christians podcast.

I'm glad to be here.

I'm glad you can pronounce my name.

That's pretty good. Well there's competing things on the internet's about the

pronunciation of your name. I heard Nate do a whole bit on Burgetsi versus purgotsi. Yeah, it's actually a whole bit on Burgetsi versus Burgetsi.

Yeah, it's actually a little bit of both.

It's Bar Getty.

Bar Getty.

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