Stephen A. Smith Challenges Dave Rubin on Trump Policies, Conservatives the Future of MAGA
The Rubin Report
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🗓️ 22 May 2026
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Dave Rubin of "The Rubin Report" talks to Stephen A. Smith about why classical liberalism, free speech, and individual rights pushed him away from modern progressivism and woke ideology; his political awakening after debating Larry Elder on systemic racism; why many conservatives have become more accepting of gay marriage and LGBTQ rights while the left demands ideological conformity; the decline of California under Gavin Newsom, Florida's success under Ron DeSantis, the future of the Republican Party, Trump's presidency, media polarization, race and identity politics, and the importance of civil discourse in America, and much more.
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| 0:00.0 | You are a minority or an oppressed minority, as they like, they like you to be perfectly oppressed. |
| 0:07.2 | And I don't consider myself oppressed. |
| 0:09.4 | I happen to be gay. |
| 0:10.6 | Unfortunately, because I don't view my sexuality as an oppression, the left has really no use for me. |
| 0:17.9 | I mean, that's not to say I don't get any hate from, say, more religious |
| 0:20.9 | conservatives on the right. I do for sure, and I'm not denying that. But the bulk of the |
| 0:25.8 | hate that I get related to my sexuality is from the left because they demand that I be a Democrat. |
| 0:31.6 | I've been waiting a while to get this next guest on the show. I've been on his show twice. |
| 0:36.7 | He's blessing us with this presence right now. |
| 0:38.8 | He's a conservative political commentator, some would say, a YouTube of course, a host of the |
| 0:42.9 | popular podcast, The Rubin Report millions upon millions of followers. The one and only Mr. Dave Rubin |
| 0:49.1 | is here with me right now. What's going on, man? How are you doing? How's everything? |
| 0:53.0 | It's good to be with you. I appreciate that you said some would say conservative |
| 0:57.9 | podcaster because I'm a little of this, a little of that, kind of like you, but I hope we can |
| 1:03.3 | duke it out here, find something we disagree on and really. I'm sure we will. I'm sure we will, |
| 1:09.8 | especially since you lie about beat me in basketball cont contest. But we'll get to that another time. We'll get to that a little bit later on, okay? We'll get to that a little bit later, all right? Listen, listen, how would, Dave, how would you describe yourself? Would you consider yourself? I know you said a little bit of this, a little bit of that, |
| 1:28.8 | but where the world is right now, according to you, with the things that you say, the things |
| 1:34.5 | that you feel, and the manner in which you go about expressing it, what would you describe yourself |
| 1:40.0 | as being right now? Yeah, I like the way you frame that question, because in the world as it is this moment, yeah, I think you could say I'm a conservative, |
| 1:50.0 | kind of small C conservative, meaning most of my values are conservative. |
| 1:55.1 | I want to conserve the good things of America. |
| 1:58.5 | But I would back up and say that in normal times, which is most of my |
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