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The Lawfare Podcast

Stephanie Leutert on the Other Southern Border

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4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 27 June 2018

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

With the media and political commentators focused on family separation at the U.S.-Mexico border, few are paying attention to how developments along Mexico's southern border affect the United States. On Monday, Benjamin Wittes spoke with Stephanie Leutert, director of the Mexico Security Initiative at The University of Texas at Austin, who has spent the past several weeks in the field studying the flow of migrants from Central America into Mexico. They discussed who's entering Mexico, why they're doing it, why most continue on to the United States, and where the dangers lie along their journeys.

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It might be a desperation because of a security situation.

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It might be a desperation because there's been a drought for the past three years,

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and your crops have died for all three years, and now you don't have any food.

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And the money that you're making through your outside work isn't cutting it.

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You're hungry, so that's the form of desperation that we wrap up in economic migrants.

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You might be in the abusive relationship, and you're sick of it, and you're done,

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and here's your cousin in the US saying, leave him in con with me and starting different life.

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There is always some form of desperation.

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We only provide legal protections to those who have specific desperate kind of circumstances,

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who are fleeing gangs or in the past before it was reversed or fleeing domestic violence.

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But to make this a journey, to leave your home, to leave your community,

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you usually have to have some something extremely difficult in your regular daily life circumstances.

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I'm Matthew Kahn, and you're listening to the LawFair podcast June 26, 2018.

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With the media and political commentators focused on family separation at the US Mexico border,

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few are paying attention to how developments along Mexico's southern border affect the United States.

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Enter Stephanie Leuter, director of the Mexico Security Initiative at the University of Texas at Austin,

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