Stephan Haggard on What’s Going on in North Korea
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 28 November 2022
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
It's been an eventful several weeks on the Korean Peninsula, with a spree of missile tests, the sudden display of a daughter of North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, and the articulation of a remarkably aggressive nuclear doctrine. To go over it all, Lawfare editor-in-chief Benjamin Wittes sat down with Stephan Haggard, the Lawrence and Sallye Krause Professor of Korea-Pacific Studies at the School of Global Policy and Strategy at the University of California San Diego. They talked about how all of this relates to prior diplomacy between North Korea and the Trump administration, what message the North Koreans are trying to send with the combination of this testing and the articulation of this new doctrine, and whether there is any prospect of denuclearization at any time in the foreseeable future.
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| 0:29.0 | But it's interesting that North Korea's frequently sought to send signals |
| 0:39.0 | of resolve and effect by undertaking legal reforms. |
| 0:45.0 | And I think it was in 2013, around that time, |
| 0:50.0 | North Korea wrote into its constitution, |
| 0:53.0 | wrote into its constitution, then, that it was a nuclear weapon state. |
| 0:58.0 | I'm Benjamin Widis and this is the LawFair podcast, |
| 1:02.0 | November 28, 2022. |
| 1:06.0 | It's been an eventful several weeks on the Korean Peninsula, |
| 1:12.0 | a spree of missile tests, |
| 1:15.0 | the sudden display of a daughter of Kim Jong-un, the North Korean leader, |
| 1:21.0 | and the articulation of a remarkably aggressive nuclear doctrine. |
| 1:28.0 | To go over it all, I asked Stefan Haggart to join me in the jungle studio. |
| 1:33.0 | Haggart is the Lawrence and Sally Kraus professor of Korea Pacific Studies |
| 1:39.0 | at the School of Global Policy and Strategy at the University of California, San Diego. |
| 1:45.0 | He is a long time North Korea watcher and one of the voices I most trust on the subject. |
| 1:53.0 | We talked about how all of this relates to prior diplomacy between the North and the Trump administration. |
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