Hey, we're Ginger and Jeremy Volo. Welcome to the Hope We Hold podcast.

Where we have weekly conversations around our family table to share the hope of Jesus.

Today, we're going to get right into the conversation because we are talking with a very special guest.

Yeah, it's a guest and an episode that will make an immediate impact on your life.

And I guarantee that this is so, so critical, so important for us.

It's one of those conversations that you listen to and immediate transformation, immediate conviction.

But this is relevant.

It doesn't matter who you are, how old you are, really.

At this point, you could be six years old and this conversation will help you.

Yes.

And so we're speaking today with Tony Renky.

Now, many of you will be familiar with Tony's voice once you hear it.

He's from the podcast, the host of the podcast, Ask Pastor John with John Piper of Desiring God.

Tony interviews Piper asking him some of the more difficult and challenging questions

that Christians face every day, addressing questions of theology, ethics, and Christian living.

Yeah, Jaron, I have listened to that for years.

But what some you may not know is that Tony is a prolific author himself.

And we've enjoyed two of his books this summer.

Twelve Ways Your Phone is Changing You, which we've listened to on audiobook

and then his most recent book, Competing Spectacles,

Treasuring Christ in the Digital Age.

Yeah, it's an exploration of what it means to spiritually thrive in an age of visual enticements.

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