Coming up on the Pest-on podcast, is there any chance we can be COVID safe in the UK with the pandemic still raging in India and the rest of the world?

What prospects are there for us to have summer holidays abroad this year?

And the Lib Dems?

The chance of a revival in the elections that are coming up tomorrow.

Also, tons of other stuff to discuss about implications of council elections, mayor elections, elections for the Scottish and Welsh

parliaments, all this and more, with the World Health Organisation's Maria Van Kerkow.

Also the boss of EasyJet, Johann Lundgren, I'll also be talking to Sir Ed Davy, the leader of the Liberal Democrats,

Tom Watson used to be deputy leader of the Labour Party and Gavin Barwell, former minister and also Chief of Staff, to Theresa May, now Lord Barwell.

Coming out first, Tom Watson. Tom, I'm going to start with you.

What's the minimum do you think that Kirstama Labor has to do tomorrow for, I don't know, your former colleagues as MPs, activists to feel that he's doing an OK job?

I don't know.

I mean, the point about these election results, it's one year in for Kirstarmer.

Whatever the results, there will be people criticising him and people praising him.

I think for him, where he will really be looking is where the results in the

so-called Red War seats.

I remember them as the marginal seats of the mid-90s and where do the votes go there.

But I think more important for him...

Do you think Hartlepool is lost?

I honestly don't know. I actually set up the last by-election in Hartleapal when Ian Wright was the candidate

that many years ago and it could have been lost then. It's, because it's an amazingly close-knit community.

And if they go, you know, they tend to sort of, you know, politics is really important to people

in Hartlepool. I had a great time up there, by the way. It's a great place to, you know,

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