Welcome to the Crazy Love podcast. How can we find hope, joy, and meaning in the midst of suffering?

Today, Francis explains that our natural tendency is to look at ourselves as the center of the universe.

Through the story of Job, Francis

reminds us that we can only make sense of our suffering when we keep God and His glory

at the center of our lives. Man, like that's the vision I had for church. Was not just one guy gets up here all the time and is always leading.

But as you guys know, when your church is, man, I don't lead any of you.

It's like these people that care for.

That's the way the body was supposed to be was like everyone has something to offer.

And for me, I was so tired of like going to church and feeling like

I'm the one that's got to speak to thousands of people. When I go, no, there's a lot of like

crazy, gifted people with amazing stories right there. And the Bible says, everyone has something

to give, you know? And I was like, man, why is everyone looking to me for every answer, every question?

You know, you can open up this book for yourself. You can lead other people. And to me, it was like,

man, that was the perfect picture of it. I was like, here's this guy that Aaron's been working with.

And, you know, and then he comes up here and blesses all of us and I'm just sitting here going

God I have nothing to add to that I mean that's just something you've done in someone's life

that's so amazing gosh I've so appreciated getting to know you and your family and man I

I pray that man Lisa and I can pour into your life somehow or serve

with you guys. I love that our kids play together, hang out together. Their son is he. Yeah, there

really is no one like him. He was on my baseball team. You know, for those who don't know,

I'm a baseball coach. It's just what I do.

And, but man, we just had such a blast, you know, and man, thanks for opening up. That's the thing. Like, as I'm sitting there listening to them share everything, I'm going, man, who does this anymore?

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