Hello, welcome back to After Reality. It's your host, Courtney Robertson here, and I am joined with my husband, Umberto. Are we live from Sedona, Arizona?

Good morning and happy New Year. No, we are definitely not live from Sedona. We're in beautiful Phoenix right now.

Enjoying the sunshine. If you listen, last week we talked, last time I had you on, we were going to go to

Sedona, where we got engaged, and we kind of planned that trip before the holidays

happened, and I had a little bit of burnout.

Might have had one holiday meltdown, but we decided to cancel our trip, and we are doing a stay staycation and what do parents do with 24 hours away?

You know, the thought of driving in the car for two hours to get up there and then two hours to get home, I was talking to my sister about it and she's like, we learn when we plan trips.

Sometimes it's better to get to the relaxation part

when your parents as soon as possible. So thank you for going with the flow with me, honey. I was,

you know, my anxiety was up around the holidays. It's just a lot of stress. And I looked at you and I was

like, I'm going to just check his temperature. I'm like, how would you feel about canceling Sedona so we can just do something a little bit more mellow? No, I was more

than fine with it. I think the original idea or plan was to just stick around town and do a

staycation. I saw a couple comedy shows, I thought that we might have fun at.

And then we talked about Sedona.

That would be a great idea.

We have not been back since we got married.

So we're going on over four years now.

And then, yeah, the thought of it being wakeholder up there, the two-hour drive,

when we can get somewhere in Phoenix in 10 minutes and be relaxing because that's all we did.

We did nothing, nothing of excitement.

It was all relaxing.

Well, there was some excitement, but that's to be expected.

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