But you know what amazes me about the interstate system in California? How many cars can move with a proximity that is literally reach out and touch your neighbor? As long as I'm owning what I'm supposed to own, we can move with tremendous speed, unbelievable proximity and a great respect and cohesion with one another. But the moment one of us swerves out of our lanes, it all falls apart.

I'm super excited to have Kevin Thompson back with us because Kevin, you've been...

Back is like, yeah. It's been, what, five years? It has been. Y'all were in Arkansas back

the last time I saw you. Now we're in Orlando. And so was I. Okay, so I'm going to start you off with a little

question, okay? Because I know you've had a lot of these questions and especially what we're

going to talk about today. This could be very typical for you. So let's say a family comes to you,

you're a pastor, but you also help counsel a lot of people. So a family comes into you, it's a mom and a dad, and their son, who they love, they adore, and their son's dating a girl that the mom's like, I don't think she's the best one for you. By the way, this isn't us. Hypothetic, yes. This isn't somebody that's really else. But it might be kind of from your book. So and, but the son is madly in love with her. And they want you to come and solve the problem. And the mom's thinking, oh, he's going to side. Kevin's going to side with me. Pastor Kevin's going to side with me. And the son's like probably just was drug there. Yeah. So what do you say to this family?

Yeah.

So often in that scenario where let's say parents really want to interject their opinions on what's going on.

You think?

I always say this.

You absolutely, this is exactly what you should have done when your child was 12.

But what happens is now the son is college age, older in their 20s. And here's the reality. It is not your business unless you are asked.

Oh, every parent's like, wait, wait, wait, no, Kevin, you don't know our scenario.

This girl's not even a Christian.

Yeah, we know better.

Surely it's my job because I love him or we love him.

And the truth of matter, Dave, is you do know better.

That's what's so difficult about it, is that you do know better.

You know the consequences of it.

Isn't this the amazing thing about parenting?

The older they get, the less power we have. It's terrible. The greater the consequences of their own decision making. Yes. Right? But the truth of the matter is, in the end, we have a dinner table, much like this one. So I have two kids. And I tell them all the time, there's six chairs at the table. We didn't plan it this way. It just turned out this way. But I tell them regularly, 17-year-old now and 20-year-old. But I've said this for a long time. Who sits at these other two chairs is up to y'all. Individually, you will each choose who you marry, who you're in a relationship with. And as long as it is not a safety issue, that person will be welcome to our table.

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