It is four minutes after 10 and you are listening to James O'Brien on at LBC. A very good morning to you.

I should give you a quick warning, actually. Good morning warning. I've got a lot of thoughts jostling for prominence in my mind at the moment, all on a similar theme.

But I am ashamed to confess that I haven't yet brought complete clarity to the context. So you need to wait

and see roughly what direction we're going in. I think that the obvious intention of West

Streeting the new Secretary of State for Health to open the NHS up to, NHS even, up to private businesses is fascinating, but

we need probably a little bit more detail before we can dive into that properly, except for

the principle of it. You know, does this mean that the NHS, how comfortable are we? I did warn

you, I warned you, that thoughts were jostling

for prominence. How comfortable are we with the idea of private companies making some money

out of what the NHS does? Because this ties in with the big announcements from Rachel Reeves

about making public money available to support private sector.

And you'd think, wouldn't you, looking at the state of the waterways, that this was an

absolutely disastrous thing to do.

But, of course, if you can get your head around the idea of limits on private sector profits. So you can run a water company,

for example, but you can't take home a two million pound dividend if you're pumping shocking

amounts of sewage into the... That is going to be the way forward. That is not socialism

in any conventional sense, but is it inevitable? But that's not

where we are going today. I don't think. What I want to do today is talk about people who are not

working. There are two types of people who are not working currently, people who don't want to

work and people who can't work. Actually, there's probably three types, isn't there? People who are ready and currently, people who don't want to work and people who can't work.

Actually, there's probably three types, isn't there?

People who are ready and willing to work but are currently and hopefully briefly in a space where they haven't got the right opportunity.

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