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🗓️ 3 November 2022
⏱️ 89 minutes
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0:00.0 | LinkedIn presents. |
0:30.0 | I'm joined in the virtual studio today by my producer, Caleb Bissinger. |
0:41.6 | Well, I mean, I'm always here. I just don't always have my microphone turned on. |
0:45.9 | That's right. But I ask you to leave it on today because the two of us cannot stop talking about |
0:51.0 | the book that today's episode is all about. It's really impacted by thinking, Caleb, and I think it |
0:56.6 | may have also impacted you. Yeah, no, absolutely. So on the show today, Rufus is going to be speaking |
1:02.7 | with a brilliant British writer named Will Store. And we've been following Will's work for a while now. |
1:09.2 | I think Rufus, you read his book, Selfie, which is all about why we're so hopelessly narcissistic. |
1:14.6 | I'm obsessed with this book he published in 2019 called The Science Storytelling, which is, |
1:20.0 | I don't think an exaggeration to say the best book I've ever read about writing, and I have read |
1:24.2 | a lot of them. And Will is something of a star over in the UK. He hits bestseller lists, the |
1:30.9 | Times of London called him one of the best journalists of ideas. But he's not quite as well-known |
1:37.2 | in the US. I think that I could change Caleb thanks to his new book The Status Game on Human Life |
1:43.3 | and how to play it, which I read with relish. His thesis is that our brains were, quote, |
1:49.5 | designed by evolution to seek connection and rank to be accepted into groups and win status |
1:55.5 | within them. This is the game of human life. And you can't not play that game, right? |
2:02.3 | That's the tricky part. It's involuntary. We are all constantly measuring our status and trying to |
2:07.7 | increase it. Will says, the only feasible way to opt out is to seek an empty room and stay in it. |
2:14.9 | And frankly, I'm not even sure that would work. You cannot escape the status game. You can't win |
2:20.0 | it either because the more status you get, the more you want, and the more you have to lose. |
2:24.7 | And I think we should pause and say, you know, some listeners may be thinking, hold on a second |
2:28.9 | reverse, that can't be true because I don't care about status. I'm not obsessed with fame or |
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