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This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Monday, December 16th, 2019. I'm Caleb Brown.

There's no love lost between many college sports fans at the NCAA,

and the way the organization operates suggests to many people

that the group governing events like college football playoffs and March Madness

is effectively an exploiter of student labor.

Saluzo is Vice President of Policy at the James Madison Institute.

We spoke in Phoenix earlier this month about one idea moving ahead now in two states to let college athletes

profit even just a little bit from their own popularity and notoriety.

I attended the University of Louisville, go-cards.

My condolences.

So the, and Louisville has its own special relationship

with the NCAA, not a lot of love lost between that school and its sports. the that Louisville had a championship vacated, the fact that there was essentially a massive payoff to Louisville's former basketball coach for signing this shoe contract versus that shoe contract.

And just by virtue of the fact that the NCAA has this enormous power

to make determinations about what schools get what and what sanctions apply to whom

and the people who are doing the work, the student athletes, especially on in sports where the sport is

...