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Pantsuit Politics

States Are Excluding Soda from SNAP. Should They?

Pantsuit Politics

Lemonada Media

News, Politics, Society & Culture, News Commentary

4.54.9K Ratings

🗓️ 21 October 2025

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Summary

Should SNAP benefits cover soda and candy? Six states get federal approval to exclude them, and Sarah and Beth debate whether this is smart public health policy or government overreach—wrestling with the tension between the "nutrition" and "assistance" parts of the program's mission. Should tax dollars subsidize products that make people less healthy? Sarah and Beth explore the "common sense politics" of restricting junk food purchases, Sarah's personal experience using SNAP cards during COVID, and whether the Biden administration should have approved state waivers as experiments instead of blocking them. Is the soda industry the real villain? Sarah calls soda "poison" and predicts it will be viewed like cigarettes in decades to come, while Beth argues the government should regulate the industry upstream rather than police individual purchases downstream. Plus: Bedtime routines, sleep struggles, and why Beth can sleep through anything while Sarah wakes up at the slightest sound. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Lemonada.

0:02.7

This is Sarah Stuart Holland.

0:16.0

This is Beth Silverers.

0:17.6

You're listening to Pantsuit Politics.

0:19.5

Remember this little viral diddy from

0:21.6

2023?

0:23.6

I wish politicians look out for miners and not just minors on an island somewhere. Lord, we got

0:32.3

folks in the street ain't got nothing to heat and the whole beast milk and welfare.

0:39.2

Oliver Anthony hit a lot of nerves with his Richmond, North of Richmond, including the

0:43.3

perennial debate surrounding highly processed foods and government benefits.

0:47.2

Since then, that debate has become a reality with six states receiving approval from the

0:52.4

federal government to exclude sodas and candy from the list of eligible products for SNAP. We're going to talk about that today. Outside of politics, a while back, I touched off quite the discussion in the news brief asking about bedtimes. So we're going to talk about bedtime, outside of politics on today's show. I'm just going to look forward to that. We're going from one of my least favorite things, shaming people about what they eat,

1:13.9

to my absolute favorite thing, bedtime. And so it's going to be a journey today. We have a journey about everywhere that we make stuff. And a lot of that happens on Substack. We would love for you to join us there. you do not have to be a paid subscriber to get our show notes, to get transcripts of our episodes, as well as our Friday essays. You can find all the things Pantsu

1:32.6

Politics has and does on our homepage on Substack. So if you like what we do here, a free, very

1:38.3

easy way to help us out is to follow us on Substack. We hope you'll do that today. You can find

1:42.6

a link in the notes.

1:50.8

Next up, let's talk about Snap and Soda. Food waste is one of the biggest climate problems we can actually solve. When our leftovers and scraps end up in landfills, they emit methane, a greenhouse

1:55.5

gas that heats the planet 80 times faster than carbon dioxide. And most of that waste comes from our own homes,

2:02.1

which means that although the system may be broken, we still have agency. Mill is the cleanest,

2:07.2

easiest way to prevent food waste at home, eliminating all the pain points associated with old-fashioned

2:12.2

compost pails and smelly garbage cans. It makes keeping food out of the trash as easy as dropping it in.

2:18.9

Toss in nearly any food scraps, even meat, bones, and dairy, and that's it.

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