Hello and welcome. I am John Cryer and this is the Undisclosed Abendum. Today we're discussing

episode three of Undisclosed Series on the State versus Willie Veecee. In this episode the team

continued investigating the case of the man who in the 1990s was convicted of second-degree murder

for his alleged involvement in a shooting on the streets of Philadelphia. Despite an alibi provided

by his employer proving his whereabouts at the time of the shooting, he was convicted and has spent

over 25 years in prison. With us today is one of the hosts of Undisclosed Colin Miller. How you doing Colin?

Good John, how are you? I'm really good. Really good. Also with us is Amber Hunt. Amber Hunt is a

journalist. She's a true crime author and she's a host of the wonderful accused podcast which recently

wrapped its second season. This iteration explored the unsolved murder of Ratho Welch. Amber in the

second season, first of all I've not been able to listen to the podcast yet, but my understanding is

that the person convicted of murdering Ratho Welch also had an alibi. Could you tell us a little

bit about the second season and the alibi? Sure thing. Thanks for having me. Ratho Welch was

she was a 54 year old woman living in Newport, Kentucky, which is when I'm working in Cincinnati,

I'm looking over the river at Newport. So it's right in our area. She was found dead in her apartment

and she counseled prison inmates. So she was one of those people. She was very developed

Christians should go to church and one of the ways she spent her free time was to go to jails

in prisons to counsel folk. And so the investigation quickly zeroed in on a man named William Virgil

because he was one of the people she had counseled and obviously she's a little higher risk victim

because she did sort of have some of these convicts come into her house and into her life and so forth.

So William Virgil was convicted in 1988. He is now out and the point of our season was to take a look

he is out because his conviction was overturned after DNA testing but there's nobody pointing

to his case on the prosecutor's side anyway saying yeah we got this one wrong there's rather

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