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Hello, I am John Cryer and welcome to the Undisclosed Addendum. In the second episode of our Chester

Holman series, this story is a lie. We got to hear from Chester himself about that night in August 1991 when Tazhung Ho was murdered.

And we also got to hear how sisters Diedra and Tiffany Jones first confirmed his account and then inexplicably reversed themselves, sending a 20-year-old on his first ever day of vacation to prison for life.

And with us today is Colin Miller. He's one of the hosts of Undisclosed. He's also an associate dean and professor at the University of South Carolina School of Law.

And he blogs at Evidence Prof. Blog. Hey Colin, how are you? I'm feeling good today. I'm feeling good.

Also with us is Candace Horsey. She is an assistant professor and director of Lawyering and the legal reasoning program at Cumberland School of Law.

Before that, she was an assistant district attorney in Philadelphia from 2003 through 2008. Welcome to the show Candace.

Thank you very much.

So, okay. So you were an ADA in Philadelphia for five years. So this whole series of Undisclosed must be just hitting you where you live. I would imagine.

It does. I would like to stress that I was a former DA and my opinions are just my personal opinions and I'm not representing the office.

So it was. It's very striking to hear the names of people I know when to think about my, like what I could still consider my office in a podcast.

Well, yes. And I mean, that was my first question was so you have come in contact with some of these people. And I imagine that must be kind of odd for you.

It certainly is. It is. And my first impression of the podcast was really one to be a bit jarring. And I, as you'll hear later, have worked on wrongful convictions as a defense lawyer.

And I appreciate that wrongful convictions and problems with the criminal justice system are critically important. But my reaction to the podcast was that for me, it presented a bit of a more misleading and mischaracterization of the police department and the office.

And that I think it just took me a bit of my surprise.

Well, this is a wonderful opportunity for you to correct those things. So what do you think is getting across that shouldn't be?

Well, that certain instances. And I think the Sean Thomas one is a very good example of clearly a case where a person was convicted that had an alibi. He was at the lyccee.

But what I think should be corrected is that there doesn't seem to be any nefarious intent behind suppressing or hiding that evidence or sometimes it is a case where the defense lawyer didn't follow up, which is pointed out or documents go missing.

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