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Jill on Money with Jill Schlesinger

State of the Economy with Diane Swonk

Jill on Money with Jill Schlesinger

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Education, Investing, Business, Self-improvement

4.61.9K Ratings

🗓️ 21 March 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

With the first quarter just about in the books, I felt it was a good time for a heat check on where things stand, so I turned to Diane Swonk, the Chief Economist at KPMG, who has always been a go-to source to make sense of short, and long-term, trends.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Jill on Money Show. It's Friday, March 21st, and we are here trying to help you make sense of this gushing flow of news that you are trying to absorb. It's very difficult. I get it. So when I feel somewhat overwhelmed, I go to people who are much smarter than I am.

0:22.5

That is why I am delighted for this broadcast to bring you, Diane Swank.

0:29.0

She is the chief economist at KPMG, US.

0:33.1

She absolutely always makes sense of short-term and long-term trends. And when I interviewed her last

0:42.2

week, it had just been like kind of that grueling week in the market, but also we had gotten

0:47.0

two data releases around consumer confidence. She was very, she had really was able to help

0:53.6

me understand how our feelings

0:56.1

can translate into different behavior. So with that said, if you have any questions about this

1:02.5

or what's going on in the economy or does this raise an issue for you, then just go to jill

1:07.4

onmoney.com, click the contact us button, write us a note. And of course, please

1:11.9

let us know if you want to join us on the air live. We love having you right now. Totally

1:16.8

enjoy this because I love her. Diane Swank, chief economist at KPMG. One time a million years ago,

1:24.0

you told me something. I actually went back and looked at some old notes. And you said,

1:28.4

you know, one of the reasons I went into economics is that like it really can help change public

1:33.4

policy. And now it feels like public policy is really changing the economy. So can you paint,

1:41.4

first let's do this. Paint a picture of where the U.S. economy stood on January 2nd of this year.

1:49.4

What was going on?

1:50.5

On January 2nd, we were in a period where we had just seen a bump in consumer attitudes, a bump in CEO attitudes.

1:58.7

There was an election bump.

2:00.1

And we saw the economy entering the year with a lot of

2:04.1

momentum. Consumer spending in December accelerated. And we had this compressed holiday season, but it was on

2:11.4

running on all engines. I spent a lot of time last year talking about something I call mine the gap,

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