Welcome to the Jill on Money Show.

It's Friday, November 28th.

It's Black Friday.

And instead of indulging in all sorts of nonsense about Black Friday, which is so stupid that we even talk about it, but heck, we're going to do it anyway.

I have a special treat.

We have an interview with the chief economist of

KPMG, the one, the only Diane Swank. And as always, the interview that we actually conducted with

Diane was incredible. She was on huge time constraints. She squeezed us in. And I don't know what's going to be released as of this time.

When we were talking to Diane, we were still in that shut, just after the government

had reopened and we had no economic data that had been released.

So just know that going in.

This is a wide ranging conversation about the economy, about inflation,

about who's spending, about affordability, about prices, about everything that you care about,

inflation, retail sales. It's just amazing. And she is one of those economists who actually can speak English, which is pretty amazing. So here for you, a great treat, here is our interview with Diane Swank. There's been, I think, a lot of conversation around the state of the U.S. economy. So I want to start big picture. The economy is

still growing. Why is it still growing after all the things that have happened, like the punches

keep coming and, you know, the box are still standing. Why is that, Diane? Well, you know,

the biggest reason is because we've got this boom

and AI infrastructure investment and the wealth effects that accompanying it. What's good about that

is that we have incredible growth in the U.S. economy over the summer and, you know, actually in the

spring, we probably had the best six months, economy's experience since the back half of 2023.

The sticking point is that was not without a lot of jobs.

And I think it's important to understand that the economy adds up on paper with this AI infrastructure boom and the inequalities that we're enduring to look a lot

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