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What Was That Like - True Stories. Real People.

STAS4: Rachel Hoffman

What Was That Like - True Stories. Real People.

Scott Johnson & Glassbox Media

True Crime, Documentary, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.61.7K Ratings

🗓️ 23 May 2025

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

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0:00.0

This is Scott, and you're listening to What Was That Like?

0:05.4

Every other Friday, I have a guest come on and talk about something they experienced that was extremely unusual.

0:12.7

Today's Friday, and we're in between new episodes.

0:16.7

So I want to tell you a story.

0:21.3

Today I'm going to tell you about Rachel Hoffman, how she became a hesitant police informant,

0:28.7

and the unfortunate events that led to the introduction of what's known as Rachel's Law.

0:38.0

It started as a common enough story, one that plays out quietly in college towns all across the

0:45.7

country every year.

0:47.8

A young woman in her early 20s, studying psychology and entertaining dreams of culinary school, finds herself experimenting with recreational drugs.

1:01.0

But what happened to Rachel Hoffman in 2008 didn't end with a slap on the wrist or a warning from a judge.

1:10.0

It ended in a ravine in rural Florida, with five bullets in her head and chest, and with serious

1:18.7

questions about how law enforcement uses confidential informants, especially the untrained,

1:27.3

the vulnerable, and the disposable.

1:32.4

Her death wasn't just a tragedy.

1:35.0

It was a catastrophe in policing.

1:42.7

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1:50.0

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2:02.8

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