Today's episode comes with a content warning for sexual violence, gun violence, and suicide.

This is Scott, and you're listening to What Was That Like?

Every other Friday, I have a guest come on and talk about something they experience This is Scott, and you're listening to What Was That Like?

Every other Friday, I have a guest come on and talk about something they experienced that was really unusual.

Today's Friday, and we're in between new episodes.

So I want to tell you a story.

Today I'm going to tell you about Chelsea Perkins.

She's a veteran, having been in the U.S. Coast Guard.

She's also a mother.

So how is it that in September of 2025, she found herself standing in front of a federal judge in Ohio about to hear him announce her sentence.

That's what we're talking about today.

I love podcasts that are entertaining, informative, and offer content that's actionable, something I can actually use in my life. And when I find one show that offers all of those things, that's like

winning the lottery. And that's the Jordan Harbinger show. Okay, obviously, winning the lottery

is a hell of a lot better than having a podcast you really like, but you know what I mean.

I listen to a lot of podcasts, but Jordan Harbinger has been in my rotation for more than 10 years.

Actually, I don't think there's any podcasts that I've listened to for that long other than Jordan.

And why?

Because he has such a huge variety of guests.

Just recently he talked with Joe Loyah, a former bank robber.

Where else are you going to hear from someone who used to rob banks?

And I loved his conversation with William H. Macy, the actor.

Jordan gets these people to tell stories that you don't hear when they're

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