What's going on,

going on, Gardeners, Kevin Espiritu here, coming to you live from San Diego

and why am I doing an intro like that?

Well, it's because one of my friends James Pragioni is here

for the week on the podcast and if you guys know James you know he's full of energy

and you know he comes at you really hard in his YouTube intros on the gardening channel with James

progioni. So James what's up man it's good to have you on the podcast.

What's going on brother? Thanks for having me on I'm excited to be here. It's cool

to talk and I mean we've caught up a couple times now but it's cool

to talk because I mean really when I was making YouTube videos back in the early days

so were you and it was cool to see someone just directly across the United States with

kind of the same vibe as me so it's just cool to have you on the show.

Yeah yeah it's that coast-to-coast kind of deal. Yeah for sure. We've both been I mean put videos out for a while so it's it's cool to be able to catch up with some of the OGs.

Yeah. Totally agree totally agree. So for those of you who don't know who James is, James I figured maybe we could just share a little

about like your approach, you're coming at them live from Jersey like you always say in your videos.

So what kind of gardening are you doing and what are you known for?

Well, like you said, I'm over in Jersey and I'm known for, I guess,

a little bit of, maybe a little intense,

but high energy gardening.

And I, one of my main starts and what really got me into gardening was permaculture and this idea of building

a food forest and it just always really intrigued me.

And so what I try to do is build a food forest in more of a suburban spot on just a small lot.

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