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Autocracy in America

Start With a Lie

Autocracy in America

The Atlantic

News, Society & Culture, Politics

4.8999 Ratings

🗓️ 6 September 2024

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

The corruption of democracy begins with the corruption of thought—and with the deliberate undermining of reality. Stephen Richer, an election official in Arizona, and Adam Kinzinger, a former Republican congressman, learned firsthand how easily false stories and conspiracy theories could disorient their colleagues. They talk with hosts Anne Applebaum and Peter Pomerantsev about how conformism and fear made it impossible to do their jobs. This is the first episode of Autocracy in America, a new five-part series about authoritarian tactics already at work in the United States and where to look for them. Autocracy in America is produced by The Atlantic and made possible with support from the SNF Agora Institute at Johns Hopkins University, an academic and public forum dedicated to strengthening global democracy through powerful civic engagement and informed, inclusive dialogue. Music by ELFL (“The Flux Beneath it All”), Skrya (“Mysterious Ways”), Howard Harper-Barnes (“Mysterious Forest”), J. F. Gloss (“Mysterious Figures”), Mary Riddle (“Go Lions,” “A United Nation”), Medité (“A Mysterious Lady”), Cercles Nouvelles (“Ancient Rome”), and Rob Smierciak (“Mystery March”). Get more from your favorite Atlantic voices when you subscribe. You’ll enjoy unlimited access to Pulitzer-winning journalism, from clear-eyed analysis and insight on breaking news to fascinating explorations of our world. Subscribe today at TheAtlantic.com/podsub. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Peter, picture this.

1:02.9

A harsh winter has finally come to an end.

1:06.1

Exhausted and ragged America's Revolutionary Army soldiers are huddled in tents.

1:11.5

It's Valley Forge. It's 1778.

1:14.5

And on a makeshift stage, a group of George Washington's officers are putting on a play.

1:21.4

It's called Cato a tragedy.

1:23.8

So they put on togas in the middle of a war.

1:26.8

History does not record what costumes they wore, nor why exactly they were putting on a play at that particular moment.

1:33.9

We do know it was one of Washington's favorite plays.

1:37.4

It was very popular in colonial America.

1:40.0

It tells the story of the end of the Roman Republic, a democracy in its time, which was destroyed by a dictator, Julius Caesar.

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