Of course, like every other teenage kid, I had no idea what I wanted to do with my life.

When I was 16 years old, I took off and drove across the country to Wyoming,

went into the Wind River Range and discovered mountains.

In 1973, Yvonne Chinard founded Patagonia.

I never wanted to be a businessman.

All I wanted to do was do my craft and climb mountains.

So then I had to figure out a way to where I was going to be a businessman,

but I was going to do it completely on my own terms.

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What did your life look like then?

What was it that you were going for in your 20s and early 30s?

Yeah, I think, I mean, you know, I was got bitten by the outdoors

and climbing super hard when I was young and it was maybe borderline obsessive on a certain level.

And a lot of my friendships were based around that.

And the way that kind of worked was like,

you try to figure out how much time you could spend climbing and work the least amount.

That was the goal for a lot of the people I knew.

And even though I loved it and I ran in that community,

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