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I'm Mitch Light, joined by Ari Wasserman, Ari's National College Football, reporter for us.

And Ari, we've basically come to the conclusion that whatever you write,

people are going to be mad. You wrote a, I thought, a well-reasoned, positive story on Oklahoma

football after its biggest win. And evidently, you're an a-hole. Yeah. I think that that's just

the way it's going to go for me. Those are two separate thoughts, by the way. I was just saying,

I am an asshole and I have this uncanny ability to make everybody angry no matter what. It's so funny, Mitch, as we were working on the story, I was like, Oklahoma fans are going to really enjoy this. Like they did it. You know, they beat Texas. They're in the playoff hunt. They can finally move on from their last coach who did them dirty.

Everybody agrees they did them dirty.

Now you can be indifferent.

And I'm going to tell you a story.

Like I had a girlfriend who broke my heart in college.

And, you know, did some things that I wish she wouldn't have done when I was like 22.

And then we broke up as a result of that.

And then I got my life together, got a better job.

Things started going well. And I was like, then I became indifferent to her after she hurt me so

bad. And I thought that the indifference was like the best part of the recovery. So I was like,

this is going to be great. And then it just turns out,

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