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Radical with Amol Rajan

Starmer, Trump, and the New World Order

Radical with Amol Rajan

BBC

Society & Culture

4.5919 Ratings

🗓️ 18 July 2024

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Sir Keir Starmer has been quick to meet with a host of world leaders since entering Downing Street. After his in-person meeting with Joe Biden, and a personal phone call to Donald Trump, Amol and Nick dissect how the new PM will navigate ‘the special relationship’ in turbulent times.

And closer to home, European leaders are meeting this week in Blenheim Palace. Baroness Cathy Ashton, the EU’s former foreign policy chief, joins Nick and Amol in the studio to give insight on Starmer’s strategy. How will he fulfil Labour’s manifesto pledge to forge an ‘improved and ambitious relationship with our European partners’? And what will EU leaders want in return?

Plus, Radio 1’s Greg James drops by to give his moment of the week and pay tribute to England cricketer Jimmy Anderson following his retirement.

If you have a question you’d like to Amol and Nick to answer, get in touch by sending us a message or voice note via WhatsApp to +44 330 123 4346 or email us Today@bbc.co.uk

Episodes of The Today Podcast continue to land twice a week post-election and look out for bonus Q&A episodes. Subscribe on BBC Sounds to get Amol and Nick's take on the new government, with insights from behind the scenes at the UK's most influential radio news programme.

The Today Podcast is hosted by Amol Rajan and Nick Robinson, both presenters of BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, the UK’s most influential radio news programme. Amol was the BBC’s media editor for six years and is the former editor of the Independent, he’s also the current presenter of University Challenge. Nick has presented the Today programme since 2015, he was the BBC’s political editor for ten years before that and also previously worked as ITV’s political editor.

You can listen to the latest episode of The Today Podcast any time on your smart speaker by saying “Smart Speaker, ask BBC Sounds to play The Today Podcast.”

The producer is Hatty Nash, the editor is Tom Smithard. The executive producer is Owenna Griffiths. Research and digital production from Joe Wilkinson, technical production from Mike Regaard.

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts.

0:04.9

Change. That was the one word on the front cover of Labour's Manifesto.

0:11.4

But most people thought they meant change at home.

0:14.2

How much change will Sekeir Starmar mean for our dealings with the rest of the world?

0:19.7

Well, he's already been flexing his muscles on the world stage.

0:23.0

He had a bilateral meeting with Joe Biden in Washington, D.C. last week.

0:26.5

And as he sat there, he might well have been thinking,

0:29.7

I'm sealing the deal here with the guy who's going to be the president again in November.

0:34.1

And yet here we are, barely a week later, events, dear boy, events, an assassination

0:38.6

attempt on President Trump, and the mood music suggests that President Trump, who's well ahead

0:43.1

in most polls and in swing states, could well be the next president again. Kirstama had a 10-minute

0:49.6

phone call with President Trump, and that was in the wake of the attempt on his life.

0:55.2

And change isn't something you just have to get used to when you're dealing with

0:59.7

who might be the President of the United States. It's true in Europe too. Look what's happened

1:03.5

to President Macron since his elections. Look at the relative weakness of the German

1:08.0

Chancellor Schultz, all these people, here in Britain,

1:12.6

for a meeting of what she called the European political community, 45 European leaders,

1:17.2

meeting at Blenheim Palace, with lots of people looking at Britain now and thinking,

1:23.2

maybe their politics is a bit more stable than ours.

1:26.2

Yep, that's what we're going to look at today.

1:27.4

We're going to look at the world stage.

1:29.0

Kirstama on it, possibly President Trump, back on it again,

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