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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

Starmer's successor? – Who is Shabana Mahmood?

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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News, Government, Politics, Society & Culture

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 15 October 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Following the Labour conference, Shabana Mahmood has emerged as one of the party’s breakout stars. Some even think the Home Secretary’s confident performance has put her in the conversation as a potential future leader. Today in The Bunker, Zoë Grünewald is joined by Rajeev Syal, home affairs editor at The Guardian, to unpack Mahmood’s rapid rise and what her ascent tells us about the future of Starmer’s government. • Head to nakedwines.co.uk/thebunker to get 6 top-rated wines from our sponsor Naked Wines for £39.99, delivery included. • We are sponsored by Indeed. Go to https://indeed.com/bunker for £100 sponsored credit.   www.patreon.com/bunkercast  Follow us on BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/bunkerpod.bsky.social  Advertisers! Want to reach smart, engaged, influential people with money to spend? (Yes, they do exist). Some 3.5 MILLION people download and watch our podcasts every month – and they love our shows. Why not get YOUR brand in front of our influential listeners with podcast advertising? Contact ads@podmasters.co.uk to find out more Written and presented by Zoë Grünewald. Producer: Liam Tait. Audio editor: Robin Leeburn. Managing editor: Jacob Jarvis. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This edition of The Bunker is sponsored by Naked Wines. I'm Seth Tevall.

0:04.8

And I'm Zoe Grunewold.

0:06.4

And here at the bunker, we don't believe in guesswork. We go to the experts for the best insights into news and politics. And why should wine be any different?

0:15.1

That's why we're pleased to recommend Naked Wines. I enjoy their Bariccas Gallaudoro Reserva from Portugal. Well, I'm trying their small and

0:23.9

small Savignon Blanc from New Zealand. Seth, tell me, what's your wine knowledge like? Very specialised,

0:30.6

so pretty good on things Portuguese, but non-existent on those other things. How about you, Zay?

0:35.5

I drink most anything, but I have to say I'm really enjoying the savenient blanc. It's citrusy, it's got notes of gooseberry. I could just drink the whole bottle. What makes naked wines so convenient is that they deliver top quality wines right to your jaw from world-class winemakers from across the globe, whether it's a French rosé, a New Zealand reisling, or even the Lebanese

0:54.8

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0:59.0

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1:04.0

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1:09.7

prices. Head to Nakedwines.co.com.uk forward slash the bunker to get six top-rated wines for

1:16.7

just £39.99. That's £6.67 a bottle. I repeat, that's six bottles of wine for just £39.99,

1:26.0

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1:30.5

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1:40.9

Hello and welcome to the bunker, News Without the Nonsense, five days a week. I'm Zoe Grunewold.

1:51.5

Amid a somewhat somber Labour conference, one figure cut through the anti-labour sentiment, the new

1:57.2

Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood. She's attempting to fight off the threat of reform

2:01.6

by redrawing Britain's immigration debate,

2:04.5

framing it around this sense of belonging.

2:07.1

At conference, she called herself a patriot, not a nationalist,

2:11.2

while signalling a tougher line on rules,

2:13.8

longer waits for indefinite leave to remain,

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