I'm Jeff Norkot sitting in for Hugo Rifkin, and we're going to be unpacking the politics of the day and the stuff that's more important than politics.

And joining me are two of the finest minds from The Times and Sunday Times is Jane Morkerians.

Welcome to the show, Jane.

Good morning.

It's good to have you in the studio.

And Alice Thompson, how are you doing, Alice? I am doing very well, thank you.

Good, good. Well, let's get straight into the first story, which is Palestine,

and we'll begin with the Prime Minister's decision to recognise a Palestinian state in September.

Kirstama addressed the nation yesterday.

Today, as part of this process towards peace, I can confirm the UK will recognise the

state of Palestine by the United Nations General Assembly in September, unless the Israeli

government takes substantive steps to end the appalling situation in Gaza, agree to a ceasefire

and commit to a long-term sustainable peace reviving the prospect of a two-state solution.

Kirsteimer says he'll go ahead with the plan unless Israel takes action to end what he calls

the appalling situation in Gaza,

while Israel says the decision rewards Hamas.

Jamie O'Kerins, is this the right move from Stama at the right time?

Too little, too late, too much?

I think he could be more swift on his feet with this, possibly.

You know, I mean, he...

I understand why he's saying September. It's all

about, you know, the meeting of the United Nations General Assembly. But, you know, I think the

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