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The News Agents

Starmer's first big U-turn

The News Agents

Global

Daily News, News, Government, Politics

4.24.3K Ratings

🗓️ 21 May 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

At PMQs, Kemi Badenoch asked Keir Starmer when “the inevitable U-turn on winter fuel" would come. Unfortunately for her, he’d already announced it. Admittedly, it was quietly done. With a bit of hedging and fudging. But if you were following closely, you’d have heard him commit to a rethink at "the next fiscal statement" to a Labour MP who stood up before the Tory leader. When will the backtrack come into force? And does this alleviate pressure on the Treasury on benefits - or just ramp it up? We speak to the Labour backbencher Brian Leishman, who wants to see his leader go further and faster.

And ahead of a major shakeup in our prisons and justice system - does the government want to reduce prisoner numbers out or principle, or is it just a result of a system on its knees? Aggie Chambre has the exclusive.

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0:00.0

The Newsagents podcast is brought to you by HSBC UK, opening up a world of opportunity.

0:08.1

This is a global player original podcast.

0:11.1

We want to ensure that as we go forward, more pensioners are eligible for winter fuel payments.

0:18.5

As you would expect, Mr Speaker, we will only make decisions we can afford.

0:23.2

That is why we will look at that as part of a fiscal event.

0:26.8

So that is Kirstama, in his rather timid way, signaling something pretty significant,

0:34.4

which is that all the rows over winter fuel, all the worries from his own

0:39.9

backbenchers are probably going to end finally in a U-turn of sorts. And that fiscal event may come

0:48.2

as early as next month with the spending review. It was a major moment on the floor of the House

0:54.1

of Commons. And indeed

0:55.5

it has left some wondering, including some of Stama's own MPs, what other U-turns on other

1:02.3

unpopular government measures might be about to come as well, including an MP we've been speaking to

1:09.0

on the show today. I don't think that the first 10 months in government has been good enough.

1:13.1

I think that we absolutely do have to change course, and we've got to improve people's living standards.

1:18.5

Welcome to the newsagents.

1:24.1

The Newsagents.

1:25.6

It's Lewis.

1:26.4

It's Emily.

1:27.2

And just to take you back to the moment that policy was made in July of last year,

1:31.9

it was one of the first things that we saw the new Chancellor Rachel Reeves commit to.

1:36.0

Labor removing payments worth up to £300 a year from what amounted to almost 9 million pensioners.

1:44.0

And it really pissed a lot of her party, his party, off straight away,

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