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Coffee House Shots

Starmer distances himself from Rayner

Coffee House Shots

The Spectator

News, Politics, Government, Daily News

4.42.1K Ratings

🗓️ 26 September 2021

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

Angela Rayner said the government were 'homophobic, racist, misogynistic... scum' at a Labour party conference event this weekend. Responding to the remarks on the Andrew Marr Show, Keir Starmer said he and Angela 'take different approaches', and that it is 'not language that I would use'. How serious is the fracture in Labour's leadership? Katy Balls speaks to Isabel Hardman and the New Statesman's Stephen Bush.

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0:00.0

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0:17.0

Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots from Labour Conference. It's Sunday and I'm joined by Stephen Bush and Isabel Hardman.

0:25.2

Now, Labour Conference kicked off on Saturday and Kirstalmers been trying to push through several rule changes.

0:32.0

What's the status of that, Isabel?

0:33.8

It hasn't gone that well, I think, is the best way of putting it. He wanted to switch from one member one vote to an electoral college system, largely to

0:43.7

prevent similar scenes as we saw in 2015 when Jeremy Corbyn was elected.

0:49.9

He hasn't been able to do that, so he's come up with a diluted package of reforms in terms of sort of thresholds for nominations and so on

0:58.3

that he's had to put to a vote in the conference hall instead because the NEC basically blocked what he was trying to do.

1:06.0

And his aides were briefing going into this and it was going to be tight.

1:09.4

It turns out that it was tighter than they'd hoped. And Stephen, when it comes to that vote, which will be later

1:14.1

today, is there a sense that this is going to be an easy win for Kirstam or is it actually

1:19.0

looking quite tight? It is actually, I mean, it is genuinely fairly tight. Essentially,

1:24.5

half of the votes are controlled by trade union election delegates half are

1:29.1

CLP delegates essentially it's all going to come down to whether or not unison well they're

1:35.0

currently formally instructed to abstain can the labour leadership negotiate them into support can

1:40.3

they peel off enough individual delegates but it's going to be very very close whether or not

1:44.0

they can get that big package of rule reforms through.

1:47.0

But Isabar, I don't know if this is a blessing in disguise,

1:51.0

but ultimately, when it comes to what people are talking about here in Brighton,

1:55.0

it's not rule changes and Kirstama's having to change and dilute his plans.

2:00.0

It's his deputy, Angela Rainer. On Saturday,

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