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Starmer at NATO summit: departing general issues sobering advice

Power Play

POLITICO

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4.21K Ratings

🗓️ 11 July 2024

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Fresh from his landslide victory, Britain’s new Prime Minister, Keir Starmer, has flown to Washington to join other leaders of NATO countries as they meet for the alliance’s 75th anniversary summit.

As the war in Ukraine takes another ugly turn following a week of heavy Russian bombardment, can NATO turn the tide of the losses? Host Anne McElvoy talks to General Patrick Sanders, who has recently left his role as head of the British Army, about the challenges facing NATO, why the UK needs to increase its defense budget and the new government's proposed defense pact with the EU.

They also discuss his proposal for military service, which caused a storm earlier in the year and at the recent general election, as well as mental health in the military.



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0:00.0

Strutting his stuff for the first time on the world stage this week is Britain's new Prime Minister Kieer stama.

0:12.0

Fresh from his landslide victory, he will join other leaders of NATO countries

0:17.0

as they meet in Washington for the Alliance's 75th anniversary summit.

0:22.0

As the war in Ukraine takes another ugly turn after a week of intense Russian bombardment,

0:28.8

can NATO still turn the tide of losses.

0:39.0

Welcome to Power Play, Politico's weekly podcast,

0:41.0

where we talk to some of the most influential people on either side of the Atlantic.

0:46.0

I'm Anne McElvoy and if you haven't already please take a moment to follow this podcast wherever you're listening, then you won't miss an

0:53.8

episode with a guest you might really like to hear from. My guest this week is

0:58.9

General Sir Patrick Sanders who's just stepped down after an eventful couple of years as Chief of the General Staff,

1:05.3

that's the head of the British Army. How does he think the Atlantic Alliance is fairing in the

1:10.8

conflict with Russia? And we caught up with our guest this week on the

1:15.2

move as you're probably here. General Sir Patrick Sanders welcome to power play.

1:20.3

Thanks Anne, nice to see you. From the back of a London black cab where we're accompanying you and this is really one of your first days I think in Civi Street isn't I don't think I've ever seen you in to suit before without the peaked cap how does it feel?

1:34.6

It feels good. It feels like taking a Bergen off at the end of a long March.

1:39.2

It's not quite my first day. It's been about three weeks now, but it's a good job you didn't catch me last

1:43.4

week at Glastonbury where I wouldn't have passed muster on any kind of parade square.

1:49.6

So the Peaked cap was off and the psychedelic t-shirt was on.

1:53.4

It was, Clangas T-shirt.

1:55.8

The Clangers T-shirt was on.

1:58.2

This is the British military when it's off duty.

2:01.9

The big picture at the moment of course is NATO summit in

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