Hello and welcome to Inside Briefing, the podcast from the Institute for Government. I'm Hannah White.

The government's new immigration plan is in the news and the Prime Minister has made headlines with the language he chose to describe it.

But beyond the rhetoric,

what is the substance of the new white paper? We will take a look. And then we'll bid farewell

to 102 Petit France and a few other Whitehall buildings too, because the government is going

to be closing quite a few of them, including the MOJ's London headquarters, the Department

of Health and Social Care on Victoria Street,

and the Department of Work and Pensions at Caxton House.

And their plan is to disperse civil servants to new locations around the country.

Is this a good way to approach civil service reform,

or is though a more radical doge-ish, as you might say, way to do things?

And then we will turn to this week's new IFG paper. It's on homelessness and it is calling for a fundamental shift in

approach from the government to address the problem. Joining me throughout is another Hannah,

Hannah Keenan, an associate director here on our civil service work program and a former civil

servant in the cabinet

office. Hi Hannah. Hi Hannah. And I'm delighted that we are joined today by Sunda Kowala,

Director of British Future. Hi, Sinder. Hello. So let's start with the white paper on

immigration, which has been rather overshadowed by Kirstama's warning that we could find ourselves

living on an island of strangers.

Sachin Sava, a researcher at the IFG and author of our recent reports on migration policy,

joins us now. Hi, Sachin. Hi, Hannah. So, is there anything new in this white paper?

There's quite a lot in this white paper, I'm only going to focus on a few of the things,

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