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Hello and welcome to this week's episode of what most people think and welcome us in our new reality now,

which is that we are at odds with the US because on Saturday Donald Trump announced his plans for tariffs against the European nations blocking his totally reasonable desire to just

walk in Greenland and call it Trump land or whatever it is. So joining us to talk about that and

other things is Rachel Fairburn.

Rachel, how are you adjusting to this new reality where we're at odds with the ones that make Netflix?

That doesn't feel.

That feels perverse.

Well, I don't know.

I mean, I'm feeling all right at the minute.

Yeah.

But that's subject to change.

I mean, the thing with Trump is you do get a sense that stuff does blow over, although this is quite extreme in some ways. I mean, one of the things I was thinking, obviously, we'll get into it as we get later in the show. And we'll also talk about Keir Stama's press conference, because who doesn't want on the most depressing day of the year to have to listen to. I mean, it's my job to listen to Keir Stama, but him on Blue Monday just go,

thank you very much for joining us here, a quarter past night,

the most depressing Monday of the year.

But yeah, you know, if it is going to be us against the US,

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