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Staph Retreat

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History, Science, Documentary, Natural Sciences, Society & Culture

4.644.5K Ratings

🗓️ 20 March 2026

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

A strange brew that's hard to resist, even for a modern day microbe.In the war on devilish microbes, our weapons are starting to fail us. The antibiotics we once wielded like miraculous flaming swords seem more like lukewarm butter knives. But in this episode, originally released in 2015, we follow an odd couple, of a sort, to a storied land of elves and dragons. There, they uncover a 1,000-year-old secret that makes us reconsider our most basic assumptions about human progress and wonder: what if the only way forward is backward? Special thanks to Steve Diggle, Professor Roberta Frank, Alexandra Reider and Justin Park (our Old English readers), Gene Murrow from Gotham Early Music Scene, Marcia Young for her performance on the medieval harp and Collin Monro of Tadcaster and the rest of the Barony of Iron Bog.Can’t get enough of that sweet, sweet antibiotic resistance content? Then you’ll be over the moon about next week’s release. It’s the podcast cut of our most recent installment of our live show series called Viscera. This one features executive editor Soren Wheeler and Avir Mitra, and it’s all about how our millenia's-long war against bacteria came to a tipping point in this modern age.Subscribe or follow our show on your favorite streaming platform and you’ll be the first to know when it drops. EPISODE CREDITS: Reported by - Latif NasserProduced by - Matt Kielty and Soren Wheeler EPISODE CITATIONS:Articles - Uncovering the multifaceted mechanism of action of a historical antimicrobial (https://zpr.io/mucw6Td6LBxT) by Harrison, F et al, 2026 bioRxv (PREPRINT). In this article Freya and her team describe the mechanisms under which Bald’s Remedy actually works. Signup for our newsletter!! It includes short essays, recommendations, and details about other ways to interact with the show. Sign up (https://radiolab.org/newsletter)! Radiolab is supported by listeners like you. Support Radiolab by becoming a member of The Lab (https://members.radiolab.org/) today. Follow our show on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook @radiolab, and share your thoughts with us by emailing radiolab@wnyc.org.Leadership support for Radiolab’s science programming is provided by the Simons Foundation and the John Templeton Foundation. Foundational support for Radiolab was provided by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation.

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0:00.0

Hey, it's Lulu. This week I want to bring back an episode about scientists who look in the most

0:07.3

unexpected place to find a brand new drug to treat a very tricky bug. The bug is Mercer,

0:14.4

that really nasty infection people sometimes get in hospitals, and I don't want to give

0:18.7

away the drug because that's sort of all the fun.

0:21.7

So I'm going to just pass you off to Jad, Robert, and Little Baby Latif from about a decade ago.

0:28.5

Here we go.

0:29.4

Wait, you're listening.

0:31.0

Okay.

0:32.3

All right.

0:33.3

Okay.

0:34.8

All right.

0:36.2

You're listening to Radio Lab.

0:39.2

Radio Lab.

0:39.7

From W-N-Y-S-C.

0:44.3

Rewind.

0:45.3

Rewind.

0:48.2

So, the way the story goes, it starts in 1928.

0:53.4

1928, Alexander Fleming, the story goes, who knows if it's apocryphal or not, is growing

0:59.3

staff, Staphylococcus, in his lab.

1:02.9

That's Marin McKenna, she's a science writer, and staff is a bacterium.

1:07.2

It lives on our skin, and it especially likes parts of the body that are warm and damp.

1:14.4

So it likes to be just up our noses or...

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