a venture capitalist and Silicon Valley guru named Naval Robicant.

And he has a quote,

networking is overrated.

Go do something great and your network will instantly emerge.

You got to be kidding me.

All right.

That's what I would say.

I think that's insane.

If you do great work,

how in the hell is anybody going to discover that

great work if nobody knows who you are?

Hello and welcome to How to Take Over the World. This is Ben Wilson. Today's episode features

an interview with Dr. Jeffrey Pfeffer, who is a professor at the Stanford Graduate School of

Business, Dr. Pfeffer's research all revolves around power and how to take it. One of the things

I love about the way that he approaches it is that he views power from a very practical standpoint.

This isn't like highfalutin theory. It is research-backed ideas for practical things that you can do

to take more power in your life, whether that is at school or at work or politically or within

your organization or community, whatever context you're within. I just think when we have a message

in our society that power corrupts, absolute power

corrupts absolutely. What does that mean? It means that good people are going to listen to that

advice and kind of antisocial sociopathic people are just not going to listen to your advice

anyway and they're going to seek power anyway. So that's why I really believe that we should be

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