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🗓️ 2 February 2022
⏱️ 38 minutes
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In this episode of Intelligence Matters, host Michael Morell speaks with Amy Zegart, the Morris Arnold and Nona Jean Cox Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution and Professor of Political Science at Stanford University about her new book, "Spies, Lies and Algorithms: The History and Future of American Intelligence." Morell and Zegart discuss the impact of emerging technologies on intelligence collection and analysis, both of which, Zegart says, have been fundamentally changed by developments like artificial intelligence, quantum computing, and commercial satellite imagery. Zegart also outlines the five "mores" - more threats, more speed, more data, more customers and more competitors - that she says have made the work of intelligence newly challenging.
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0:00.0 | This is Intelligence Matters with former acting director of the CIA, Michael Morel. |
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0:12.4 | I decided I wanted to write a textbook that others could use to teach people about |
0:18.0 | all things related to intelligence. It took a while and the world changed and |
0:22.0 | technology became a much bigger driver of changes in intelligence. |
0:25.5 | And so the book that I ended up writing turned out to be a very different book |
0:28.9 | than I started out writing. |
0:32.6 | So we think about this new technological landscape where adversaries are using |
0:37.7 | tools in different ways to undermine our country from within. |
0:41.6 | That to me was a threshold moment that the world had changed in some fundamental |
0:47.2 | ways that were dramatically affecting sense-making, which is what the |
0:52.2 | intelligence agencies do. How do we make sense of the world? |
0:59.3 | Amy Zegart is a professor of political science at Stanford University. |
1:03.4 | She is among the foremost academic experts on the US intelligence community. |
1:07.5 | She has just published a new book on intelligence titled Spies, Lies and |
1:12.0 | Algorithms, The History and Future of American Intelligence. |
1:15.4 | Amy and I just sat down to chat about her new book and will be right back with |
1:19.0 | that discussion after a word from our sponsor. |
1:21.6 | I'm Michael Moral and this is Intelligence Matters. |
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