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Standing Between Border Control and Immigrant Families

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Christianity Today

Religion, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.3 • 622 Ratings

🗓️ 20 June 2018

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Last month, US Attorney General Jeff Sessions vowed to enforce a “zero tolerance” policy when it comes to immigration. Here’s one way he described how this would look: "If you are smuggling a child, then we will prosecute you and that child will be separated from you as required by law," he said. "If you don’t like that, then don’t smuggle children over our border." Months before he made this promise, Sessions had already started making good on it. Three weeks prior, the The New York Times had reported that since October, more than 700 children have been taken from adults claiming to be their parents, including more than 100 children under the age of four. As Sessions’ immigration policies have drawn national attention, evangelical leaders have been increasingly speaking out. A letter from the Evangelical Immigration Table said this to President Trump: While illegal entry to the United States can be a misdemeanor criminal violation, past administrations have exercised discretion in determining when to charge individuals with this offense, taking into account the wellbeing of children who may also be involved. A “zero tolerance” policy removes that discretion—with the effect of removing even small children from their parents. The traumatic effects of this separation on these young children, which could be devastating and long-lasting, are of utmost concern. Other Christian female leaders also started a #notwithoutmychild campaign in which they wrote a letter with more than 2,500 signatures to Sessions and Department of Homeland Security secretary Kirstjen Nielsen. Sister Norma Pimental, the executive director of Catholic Charities of the Rio Grande Valley on the border of Mexico, has seen most of this situation unfold firsthand. “We need to look at our laws and make sure we protect our laws and country, but at the same time, we cannot overlook that we are talking about human beings,” said Sister Norma. “Our laws can be humane and can be a process that can address things correctly without ignoring that these are human beings, and we must listen to their story and understand why they’re here.” Sister Norma joined associate digital media producer Morgan Lee and editor in chief Mark Galli to discuss the reality of what’s happening on the United States–Mexico border, her relationship with border control, and what impact the attorney general’s words have on those traveling north. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This episode is brought to you in part by The Apologetics Guy Show, the podcast that helps you find clear answers to tough questions about Christianity.

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Music Michael Del Rosario at Apologeticsguy.com. You're listening to Quick to Listen.

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Each week we go beyond hashtags and hot takes to discuss a major cultural event.

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I'm Morgan Lee, Associate Digital Media producer here at Christianity today,

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and I'm joined, as usual, with Mark Galley. Hello. Hey, Mark. What's going on? We're going

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to have a great podcast today. That's what's going on. You're responsible for the guest. I am,

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because I heard her speak at a conference earlier this year, and I was real excited when we had an opportunity to have her on the show.

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So let me introduce her.

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Norma Pimentel is a sister with the missionaries of Jesus and a licensed professional counselor with master's degrees from St. Mary's University in San Antonio and Loyal University in Chicago.

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She's been executive director of Catholic

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Charities for the past 10 years overseeing its work in the Rio Grande Valley on the border of

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Mexico, including work with immigrants crossing the border. I'm looking forward to letting you

1:23.8

listeners hear her because I thought she had some great insights about this whole issue of immigration,

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and she's able to talk about this in a tone that we had Christianity called Beautiful Orthodoxy.

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Welcome, Sister Norma.

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Thank you. Thank you so much, Mark. I'm very happy to be here with you and to share what I know with the audience.

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We're really happy to have you on here, too,

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and we are going to get into this very thorny issue of immigration with Sistroma in a couple of minutes,

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but before that I just wanted to give everyone an overview of what we're talking about today.

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So last month, U.S. Attorney General, Jeff Sessions, vowed to enforce a, quote, zero tolerance policy when it comes to immigration. Here's one way he describes how this would look. Quote, if you are smuggling a child, then we will prosecute you and that child will be separated from you as required by law, he said. If you don't like that, then don't smuggle children over our border. Months before he made this promise, Sessions had already started making good on it.

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