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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

Stand your ground? Can you kill if attacked by popcorn?

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

iHeartPodcasts and CrimeOnline

News, True Crime

4.28.1K Ratings

🗓️ 2 March 2017

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

A judge will soon decide if a retired police captain was within his rights to shoot to death a man who threw popcorn at him during an argument over cell phone use in a movie theater. It is the latest controversial case involving Florida’s “stand your ground” law. Curtis Reeves testified that he feared for his life when Chad Oulsen tossed a bucket of popcorn at him. If the judge decides Reeves’ fear was reasonable, the 75-year-old man will avoid a murder trial. Oulsen’s wife, Nicole, also suffered a wound to her left hand in the shooting. Her lawyer T.J. Grimaldi discusses the case with Nancy Grace in this episode of “Crime Stories.”

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Cheryl McCollum, host of the brand new co-case podcast, Zone 7.

0:04.1

We're going to be talking to family members, detectives, prosecutors, and nationally recognized

0:09.1

experts that are in my Zone 7. The group of professionals that I've called on

0:13.6

to help me work hundreds of cases you've heard of and thousands you haven't.

0:18.0

We are going to solve these cases own air together. Listen to Zone 7 on the I Heart Radio app,

0:25.2

the Apple Podcast app or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast.

0:38.4

The 73-year-old retired police officer accused of killing a man after an argument over a cell phone

0:47.2

in a movie theater took the stand in his own defense. At that point it was his life for my.

0:53.8

This is Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

0:57.4

Reeves is using Florida's controversial stand-your-ground law in a hearing hoping to avoid going to trial.

1:04.0

Reeves says he asked Olsen to put his phone away during the movie previews and an argument in suit.

1:10.2

He says Olsen first threw his cell phone at him hitting him in the head before grabbing his

1:14.8

popcorn and throwing that at him as well. He was getting ready to punch me and I perceive that

1:21.6

at some point and that's who the business will go.

1:26.8

It was his life or my life. That's what a retired chief of police says. He shoots a movie

1:35.0

go red dead in a cinema for texting. This is the way it all goes down. Everybody welcome to Crime

1:42.2

Stories. I'm Nancy Grace. Thank you for being with us. I'm stunned right now. About a case

1:48.0

that's coming out of Wesley Chapel. It's very close to Tampa. I've actually gone down there and

1:54.4

looked at this cinema myself to see what it was all about to see the scene. There are wide swathes

2:03.2

of land that is undeveloped. It's beautiful stretch of marsh in Florida. Then suddenly I don't know

2:11.7

jumps up Wesley Chapel and it looks new. You know how you can tell an old subdivision or an old

2:19.6

strip mall versus the new ones. The whole place looks new and the neighborhoods there very very nice

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