Hi Paul. Hi Ardly. How are you doing? I'm doing great. How are you? I'm so good. It's so great to have you on Small Town Dicks. Oh I am so happy to be here. So we want to know how did we persuade you to join us here on Small Town Dicks. Oh it was it was a lot of arm twisting. Not the truth.

Well what has always impressed me about Small Town Dicks is the professionalism. First you have your authenticity. You know Dan and Dave, myself we come out of real crime. We've had real experiences. And so the audience, the listeners are getting from Small Town Dicks. What actually happens out there. Not something that's been glamorized. But also you guys don't exploit the cases. You're empathetic to the victims. And this is what I'm all about. And I know that people who know me from

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We had been shot at quite a bit. Really the whole team's been shot at that's back there. He's pretty indiscriminately shooting. There's holes in the back.

There's a hole in the garage door. There's a hole in the garage door. There's a hole in the garage door. There's a hole in the garage door.

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Today on Small Town Dicks we have the usual suspects. We have Detective Dan. Hello there. Hello you and we have Detective Dave. Greetings team.

Thank you. And Small Town Fam, we are thrilled to welcome a new guest to the podcast. Detective Chris. Hello.

Chris, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for giving up one of your precious days off. We're so grateful. Thank you.

Yeah, I'm happy to be here. So Chris, you have a really interesting case for us today. I'm just going to let you take it from here.

Okay, it wasn't long ago. We had a patrol call. They responded for a welfare check at this condominium complex and the complainant on the call was concerned about her adult son and also her grandchild. Her name's Debbie.

The adult son, Mike and her grand son Alex came over to her house. How old is Mike about? In his late 40s. And how old is Alex? 10, I believe 11. Okay.

Debbie said that Mike was acting strange. She was just worried about his behavior, acting pretty erratically. It wasn't sure if it was mental health or drugs and alcohol.

And Mike was kind of refusing to leave. She was also worried, of course, then of the welfare of her own grandson Alex.

Things just began to escalate. Debbie didn't feel safe. And so she left the house and Alex lived with Mike. And they had come over from Mike's house.

So Alex was still inside with Mike. Debbie said that Mike had some access to firearms and Debbie wanted Mike out of her house.

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