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Stalking Terrorists Online

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Education, News, History

4.41.7K Ratings

🗓️ 21 April 2011

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Montana resident Shannen Rossmiller is proof that things are not as they seem online. Before September 11, she was a judge, a wife, and a mother but not an expert on terrorism or an Arabic speaker. After September 11, she taught herself Arabic and started to explore the world of online jihadism, pretending to be a male terrorist. She soon found that real jihadists were willing to share their secrets with her. She turned these secrets over to the FBI and as a result some of her online acquaintances are now in jail. Listen in as Peter, who used to steal secrets in the real world, compares notes with Shannen who used to steal secrets in the virtual world.

Transcript

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0:07.0

Hello. Hello and welcome to Spycast from the Secret Files of the International Spy Museum in Washington,

0:20.6

D.C. I'm Peter Ernest, the Executive Director of the Museum. I served for

0:25.8

some 36 years in the Central Intelligence Agency, largely as what is called an

0:30.6

operations officer or a case officer.

0:33.1

Every month we'll be bringing you interesting talks

0:35.9

with visitors, with authors, with others who

0:38.6

have something to do with the world of intelligence

0:41.4

and espionage.

0:44.7

Our guest today is a very unusual woman.

0:47.7

Her name is Shannon Ross Miller.

0:50.8

And rather than try and encapsulate exactly what she does, let me ask her to tell you what she does, because it is an extraordinary contribution to dealing with so much of what we're dealing with today in

1:07.4

dealing with the terrorism threat.

1:09.5

So Shannon, tell us what you do. Well, after 9-11, I got into, interested in obviously following the terrorist threats and about

1:19.1

terrorist groups and it wasn't something that I was particularly focused on before then.

1:23.0

But since that time I combined my legal background, foreign language skills,

1:28.0

and behavioral profiling that I had been interested in since I was very young to culminate and come together

1:35.0

providing me with a skill set to go and create male jihadist characters on the internet that I use to,

1:42.0

I've used it over the years to infiltrate

1:44.0

websites forums social networking sites different you know message boards just

1:50.8

you know looking for you know different types of information that connects the

1:55.0

dots to the different threats or individuals that appear to be threat related and in

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