You're listening to Family Talk, the radio broadcasting division of the James Dobson Family Institute.

I am that James Dobson, and I'm so pleased that you've joined us today.

Well, welcome to Family Talk. I'm Roger Marsh. On today's broadcast, we're continuing a timeless

conversation about the emotional and physical changes women experienced during menopause.

Our guest today is the late Gene Lush, who spent over 30 years as a counselor with Krista Ministries

in Seattle, Washington. Jane was a best-selling author and was also the first woman certified as a marriage counselor

in Washington State. On our last broadcast, Dr. Dobson talked with Jean Lush about her

remarkable testimony of how God called her into ministry. Today, she'll be sharing practical

wisdom about navigating the menopausal transition.

So here now is Dr. James Dobson to reintroduce our guest, Gene Lush, on today's edition of Family Talk.

We've been talking with counselor Gene Lush, who's had more than 30 years of experience in counseling,

has devoted the ministry of counseling, and you do consider it a ministry, don't you, Jim?

Very much.

Yeah.

You've devoted it largely to women.

And as I understand it, you feel that God himself revealed this ministry to women to you.

Yes, it was a very strange experience, really, because you have to believe how happy we were

in the house where we were.

We had our ideal home in the foothills in Adelaide, and we had dreamed for long years of

having this place.

And I wanted to live and die there.

It was three acres, great big eucalyptus trees,

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