You're listening to Family Talk, the radio broadcasting division of the James Dobson Family Institute.

I am that James Dobson, and I'm so pleased that you've joined us today.

Well, welcome to Family Talk, the broadcast ministry of the Dr. James Dobson Family Institute.

I'm Roger Marsh.

You know, many women approaching their 40s begin experiencing unexpected changes, a lack of energy

perhaps.

Maybe your feelings are a bit off.

Or you may be experiencing what feels like a general sense of unrest.

If that sounds familiar, well, today's Family Talk broadcast will offer both understanding as well as hope.

Our guest today here on the program is the late Gene Lush, a pioneering counselor who spent

over 30 years helping women navigate life's challenging seasons.

Gene was actually the first woman certified as a marriage counselor in the state of Washington,

and her insights into the emotional phases of womanhood have helped countless families.

On today's Family Talk broadcast, you'll hear Jean's conversation with Dr. Dobson

about what she calls the malaise of the early 40s and why understanding this phrase can bring

such relief. So here now is Dr. James Dobson to introduce his guest, Gene Lush, on today's

edition of Family Talk. Tell me what a woman goes through in these menopausal years.

And I would like you to deal with the emotional and psychological aspects of menopause

with the thousands of women that you've counseled with.

You know, it's with a real purpose that I've labeled the malays of the early 40s.

That word's a good word, I think.

And I think now quite close, after all the activity and the insurgent years of the 30s,

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