Stacy Alaimo: Sinking into our entanglement with the deep seas
Green Dreamer: Seeding change towards collective healing, sustainability, regeneration
Kaméa Chayne
4.8 • 694 Ratings
🗓️ 26 September 2025
⏱️ 55 minutes
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How have the deep seas already been altered by industrial human activity? What is the relationship between art and science within the world of ocean conservation? And how do our culturally shaped senses of aesthetics influence our ethics of land care?
In this episode, Green Dreamer’s kaméa speaks with Stacy Alaimo, whose latest book is The Abyss Stares Back: Encounters with Deep-Sea Life.
Join us as we explore the entanglement of all life as waterly bodies of the Earth, what it means to care for and practice love for places and beings with whom we have no direct relationship, and more.
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| 0:58.4 | And what we don't see, we don't see deep sea corals that are so, |
| 1:05.6 | in such deep water and the trawlers go out and try to catch the fish that are on these deep sea corals. And the deep sea corals live for hundreds and hundreds, if not thousands of years, and they just get decimated. |
| 1:14.9 | And then they're gone, and then the life has no habitat. |
| 1:18.3 | So I think, you know, I think the lawn is very much like that. |
| 1:21.3 | But it's also just part of it. |
| 1:34.6 | You're listening to Green Dreamer, and I'm your host, Kamea Shane. |
| 1:46.6 | I'm so excited to share this round two interview with Stacey Elimo, a professor of English and environmental studies at the University of Oregon. |
| 1:54.0 | Our first conversation from a few years ago focused on this idea of our bodies already being the Anthropocene, basically our entanglement with everything, which drew on her earlier books. |
| 2:01.1 | Today we'll be talking about her new book, The Abyss Stairs Back, Encounters with Deep Sea Life. |
| 2:07.8 | It isn't too often that we get to intentionally focus on and feel into our connection to the deep seas. |
| 2:16.4 | So I personally found St Stacy's invitation for us to |
| 2:20.2 | confront our entanglement with what feels so distant and even strange to what we might know |
| 2:26.6 | to be really vital and refreshing. At this point, if you find it supportive to do so before we dive in, I want to invite you to take a few deep |
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