Hi, I'm Jonathan Kapart, and welcome to Cape Up.

Talk about a great accident of timing.

The same day Senator Kamla Harris dropped out of the presidential race,

I sat down with Stacy Abrams at the John F. Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum in Boston.

For 90 minutes, the black woman who lost her race for governor of Georgia last year

demonstrated why so many Democrats want her involved in the 2020 race somehow.

Abrams talks about the high hurdles faced by black women running for higher office,

how voter suppression keeps us from having the America we say we want, and why she would

absolutely consider being the vice presidential nominee for president. Well, thank you very much. Thank you very much Director Price. Stacey Abrams, nice to see you again. We've done this once before. We have. You came on my podcast. It's called Cape Up this is this is the closest I'm going to get to the

cape where they can hear my voice I wanted cape cast and it was taken so I'm just saying

putting it out there so what's been going on? You know. I've had some

climb on my hands. All right in all in all seriousness when I got on the plane today,

sat down buckled my buckle and the news was coming over on my text.

I saw it on Twitter that Senator Kamla Harris dropped out of the race for president.

Your reaction.

I think number one we owe her debt of gratitude for mounting such a vigorous campaign.

I think there is, there are a lot of lessons to be learned from not only the campaign, but

the reaction to it.

It's hard to run for office under the best of circumstances.

And as my experience has shown, and I think Kamala is even more so.

Wanting someone to be the person

doesn't just happen through wishes.

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