Stacey Abrams’ Guide to Preserving Democracy
Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso
Higher Ground
4.8 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 27 February 2022
⏱️ 55 minutes
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Summary
This week, we’re in conversation with author, voting rights activist, and gubernatorial candidate for the state of Georgia: Stacey Abrams. To begin, we talk about the systemic challenges that small business owners face (4:26), the impact of Georgia’s new voting laws (8:38), the threat of election subversion (11:52), what a functional democracy could look like (14:40), the lessons learned from her 2018 bid for Governor (18:14), and how she plans to win in 2022 (22:12).
On the back half, Abrams reflects on growing up in the south (26:00), her earliest political ambitions (31:49), and how literature has offered a human complexity not always granted to people in politics (36:34), especially Black women in positions of power (38:07). As we leave, Stacey shares a personal story about her first visit to the governor’s mansion (41:53), the need to move past tribalism (46:34), and why she still wants to be in this fight in 2022 and beyond (48:31).
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| 0:00.0 | Pushkin |
| 0:09.0 | Hey, this is Sam. |
| 0:10.0 | If you enjoy our interviews with writers and artists on Talk Easy, then I'd recommend checking |
| 0:14.8 | out the podcast Missing Pages. Hosted by acclaimed literary critic and author Beth Ann Patrick, |
| 0:21.5 | Missing Pages investigates the biggest hot button topics in the book world today |
| 0:26.4 | with the help of special guests like New York Times Best-Selling author Jody Pekle |
| 0:31.3 | and publisher weeklies Jim Miliet. |
| 0:33.8 | Produced by the people at the Podglamaret, |
| 0:36.1 | Missing Pages explores everything from the insta frame of Colleen Hoover |
| 0:40.3 | to the rise of book bands across America to the lucrative culture of non-fiction ghost writing. |
| 0:46.0 | As both the Washington Post and the Guardian praise, |
| 0:49.0 | missing pages is a must listen. |
| 0:52.0 | So if you'd like to check it out, you can follow missing pages on |
| 0:55.0 | Apple Podcast or wherever you like to listen. This is talk easy. I'm joined by author, voting rights activists, and gubernatorial candidate for the state of Georgia, |
| 1:39.7 | Stacy Abrams. |
| 1:41.1 | This past week, Abrams and her longtime business partner, Laura Hodgson, published a new book called |
| 1:47.6 | Level Up, a practical guide to starting and scaling a small business. It offers the kind of straightforward and |
| 1:55.2 | sensible advice we've come to expect from Abrams, both the entrepreneur and the |
| 2:01.1 | politician. |
| 2:02.6 | For those unfamiliar, from 2011 to 2017, Abrams served as Georgia's House Minority Leader |
| 2:09.6 | and Representative for District 89. |
| 2:12.4 | She was the first woman to lead Georgia's General Assembly |
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