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Stablecoins are Fueling a New Era of Dollar Dominance | Vance Spencer & Michael Anderson

Hidden Forces

Demetri Kofinas

Government, Business

4.8 • 1.6K Ratings

🗓️ 28 July 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

In Episode 430 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with Vance Spencer and Michael Anderson. Mike and Vance are the founders of Framework Ventures, one of the largest venture capital firms in crypto and one of the earliest and biggest investors in Decentralized Finance (DeFi).

Kofinas, Spencer, and Anderson spend the first hour surveying the current state of crypto—how the space has evolved since Michael and Vance were last on the podcast and how institutional participation in Bitcoin and Ethereum has expanded through ETFs and corporate treasury strategies. They also unpack the latest legislative developments, including the Genius and Clarity Acts, and their implications for stablecoin adoption and the broader digital asset ecosystem.

In the second hour they zoom out to examine the far-reaching implications of dollar-backed stablecoin adoption outside the United States. The three of them explore how diverging regulatory frameworks across jurisdictions are shaping the future of decentralized finance and consider the rise of digital asset treasury companies as a powerful new force in the crypto economy. They also examine the practical intersections between blockchain technologies and artificial intelligence, including how AI might leverage decentralized finance applications and cryptocurrencies for the purposes of capital formation and data monetization.

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Episode Recorded on 07/24/2025

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0:00.0

What's up, everybody? My name is Demetri Gaffinus, and you're listening to Hidden Forces,

0:06.1

a podcast that inspires investors, entrepreneurs and everyday citizens, to challenge consensus

0:12.8

narratives, and learn how to think critically about the systems of power shaping our world.

0:18.6

My guests in this episode of Hidden Forces are Van Spencer and Michael Anderson. Mike and Vance are the founders of our world. My guests in this episode of Hidden Forces are Vance Spencer and Michael Anderson.

0:23.3

Mike and Vance are the founders of Framework Ventures, one of the largest venture capital

0:27.6

firms in crypto.

0:29.3

They've been on the podcast several times before to discuss their investment outlook for

0:33.2

this asset class, and you can easily find those previous appearances in the related section to

0:38.3

this week's episode page at hidden forces.io. We spent the first hour of this conversation

0:43.9

discussing the current landscape in crypto, the evolution of digital assets since Michael

0:48.8

and Vance were last on the show, and the growing institutional adoption of Bitcoin and

0:53.9

Ethereum through ETFs and Treasury

0:56.2

strategies.

0:57.4

We also explore recent regulatory developments, in particular the Genius and Clarity Acts,

1:02.6

and what they mean for stablecoin adoption and the broader crypto markets.

1:07.3

The second hour is devoted to exploring the far-reaching implications of dollar-backed stablecoin adoption outside the United States,

1:15.2

how regulatory differences across jurisdictions are shaping innovation in decentralized finance,

1:20.8

and the emergence of digital asset treasury companies as major players in the crypto space.

1:26.6

We also examine the practical intersections between blockchain technologies and artificial intelligence,

1:32.3

including how AI might leverage decentralized finance applications and cryptocurrencies for the purposes of capital formation and data monetization.

1:41.3

If you want access to all of this conversation, go to hiddenforces.io

1:46.4

slash subscribe and join our premium feed, which you can listen to on your mobile device,

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